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Characters progress quite nicely. Mainly, the difference between the levels is knowledge. Skill and attribute progression can be handled as fast as you want.

Street level campaigns don’t know anything about the occult underground, that magick is real, etc.

Global is the crap you find yourself in when you figure out the real deal, or part of it, anyway.

And cosmic comes in once they know just how deep the rabbit hole goes.

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Does anybody mind if I collect and format these and post them in the Mods or Misc sections?

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try this troup on for size:

The Bindlestiff Family Cirkus

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Devouring Mother would use the standard channels, I’d think. There an example of this type of character in Break Today, if you’re looking for it: and she’s channeling the Mother.

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very good to know

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God damn it, I have to agree with all of that. The “get 10 years younger” thing is just too far off. At the very least, I’d say that it’s the appearance of youth. Sure, they might look younger, but it doesn’t really turn back the clock.

I have to say that I’m strongly in the “not in my games” camp. The internal cost-benefit balance seems to be a bit off, and the taboo should be a bit more restrictive, considering the powers.

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Same here

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Oh yea, ritual performance is part of an Adept’s penumbra. Remember, though, it’s a soul skill, not a mind one. What’s the penumbra for Aura-Reading, or Charm, or Lie?

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but it might let you know about the movers and shakers of that school/tradition, or some leads on rituals, or be able to spot the wake of related magics, auspicious events, etc.

I think most of all it would give you a sense of the type of situation/action you can get charges from. For example, an advanced Cutter would be might be able to inflict an exact amount of damage on themselves to charge up (exactly 3, instead of some variable amount, etc).

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Except that’s not what the book says:

“Dethroned archetypes return to Earth as mortal humans. They are conscious of their status as ex-archetypes, but they have only fragmentary memories of their experiences in the clergy. They are also diametrically opposed to their former agenda, a sort of anti-archetype whose greatest goal is the refutation of what they once utterly embodied” (UA2, pg 203)

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The will of the masses is not only self-motivated. Remember “Fly to Heaven?” He wasn’t trying to ascend spontaneously, he was intentionally focusing the mass consciousness…

kinda like the way Jack the Ripper caught the mass imagination during his murder spree… and an ex-IC member would be in a perfect position to know how to game the system.

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They would be just as driven and extreme, just inverted. Besides, they’d certainly have the motivation and the know-how to get back in to the IC:

Don Juan, who would hunt his targets to seduce them. After taking his trip through the House he might become Jack the Ripper, who would hunt his targets to slaughter them… before disappearing mysteriously.

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I think the Champion would be a better fit than the Perfect Knight, though we’re likely using different terms for the same idea.

Then again, I’d say the True King was remade as the CEO in the mid ’90s. Of course, world events actually forced it into reversion, actually switched back to a national sovreign ideal.

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Oh yea, with all the tales of people trying to become the World’s Greatest Lover, I’d definitely say that the Lover is up there… maybe a certain Don was a historical holder of this seat.

I wonder what Don Juan emerged as… maybe going on to become the first Dark Stalker. I wonder how the date reference compares to Jack the Ripper…

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Sartre would disagree with the idea that any view, even one that involves being seen as a group, can tracend it’s existential isolation…

I’d allow “the Lover,” but not the lovers. That being said, avatars of the Lover might gravitate toward each other, much like Necessary Servants, or Warriors who share a cause, or the hypothetical Merciless Beauty (on the site).

The masses just aren’t capable of truly experiencing a multi-perspective ideal, not strongly enough to bring about group archetype… at least that’s what they say, anyway.

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