Hi all, I was thinking of an idea for a campaign centered around the music industry. I posted a rumor some time ago but the idea has kinda “blossomed”. The idea I have is that all of the early deaths of musicians have been caused by Elvis and his Cabal, “the Kingsmen”. The King has become the Godwalker for the Minstrel archetype and is trying to keep anyone from taking the position from him, and also to ascend as “the Rock N’ Roller”, his take on the archetype. I think it has good potential, what do you guys think? If you like it I can post some of the stuff I’ve come up with here.
Sounds like a pretty rad idea. If I recall your earlier post, Elvis and his cabal are actually responsible for the death’s of every rising rock star that has died since Elvis was king. It would also explain why folks were always seeing Elvis.
So are all Elvis impersonators part of his cabal? Does he recruit Elvis impersonators to form his own Sect of the Swinging Hips?
Wierd death conspiracies seem to be right up UA’s alley. I’d definately like to see some more details.
I’m still trying to figure out the channels for the Minstrel archetype. What I have so far is at 1-50% mood amplification by performance. That’s why people either REALLY love or REALLY hate the performer and riots can be incited by upping the anger, or suicide caused by upping the depression. Most avatars don’t know they are avatars, so they don’t know that their performances and recordings really can cause suicide, or super-rebelliousness. At 51-70 they can ALTER someone’s emotions, changing them to what the avatar wants people to feel. I’m at a loss for higher level channels so far, but I’m working on it.
Some other highlights include Jimi Hendrix’s experimentation as a narco-alchemist, and possible trying to combine it with a form of “music magic”. Hendrix was actually into this kind of thing. The Beatles broke up because they had two high level minstrels and at too high a level they just can’t get along (Elvis’ folks took care of the more popular one when his solo career became a threat). Michael Jackson was channeling the minstrel until he became an avatar of the Mystic Hermaphrodite (Latoya is his female form). The Greatful Dead’s powerful cabal that failed to protect Jerry from the Kingsmen after years of keeping them away. I think the Cabal could be either a powerful enemy or ally. Not all Elvis impersonators are in the Cabal, but the Cabal recruits from the most devoted. Of course their obsession must be Elvis.
71-90: Music soothes the savage beat. With a successful avatar roll and a musical performance, you can negate the effects of any passion, perhaps some madness checks, and generally force people to stop fighting and calm down. This is a more specialized, but more powerful extension of the general mood altering effects.
My take on the Minstrel comes from Orpheus and Dante, who pass through Hell for the love of a woman and later gain prophetic ability. Maybe that’s the 91+ channel.
Mmmm i have to say that just the idea of Elvis leading a Cabal to promote the spirit of Rock n Roll whilst trying to fight against a rising wave of bland pop in UA is fantastic.
Its the perfecet blend of the ridculous and the sublime. It makes me think of Britney Spears drinking potions brewed from the sweat of teenage fanboys to become more in touch with “the scene”, whilst music company executives hold sayonces trying to discover, is the King really dead?
Erm, sorry that was just my brain getting a little out of control. How are you going to run the fact that Rock n Roll seems to be waining at the moment?
Are Elvis and the Kingmakers fighting a guerilla action against a tide of bland manifactured music?
Is there another Clergy member working against him, trying to crush the spirit of freedom that (should) be at the heart of his music?
Sorry forn all the questions but im interested 🙂
Well, the King is trying to stamp out pop music because it is a new take on the archetype that he is trying to redefine as the King of Rock N’ Roll (the original archetype is the minstrel). He’s been losing some power because of the rise of crappy pop music, which removes rock n’ roll from mass consciousness. The Kingsmen try to keep Elvis in the public consciousness by performing as Elvis impersonators (many of them are personamancers). He is facing a two front battle, though, because rock is also riddled with others trying to mold King of Rock N’ Roll to their way. The way I see it, as with everyone in UA, Elvis is not “Good” and not “Evil”, he’s manipulative, selfish, and corrupted as all hell by his drive for power. What might have been pure about him has been drained by his years of battling the current minstrel (I don’t know who it should be yet), and every year he spends fighting reduces his chances of getting in. Basically he is in a losing battle. He is REALLY dangerous because of the desperation of his situation, and still a Godwalker. Boy bands are not much of a threat, because they represent several different archetypes (the “bad boy”, the “soulful baby face”, the “front man”, the “near 40 year old pretending to be 18”, etc. etc. ).Spears may not be so dangerous, though, because she is probably channelling the “bimbo” or the “slutty virgin”. The biggest advantage that the King has is this is OU stuff and most record execs don’t know about it, nor do most pop stars, or even other rock n rollers.
That’s just my take on Elvis, I just present my idea here to give people a different take on where the King is. If you want a noble Elvis trying to defend Rock N’ Roll’s honor, thats cool, I just thought it would be fun to have him be responsible for the “27 Club”.
By the way, does anyone have a possible numeralogical reason why 27 is the time they get iced? I suppose 2+7=9 and 9 is 3+3+3… most of them first become a threat in their mid twenties, perhaps someone who was in their thirties would be killed at 36, or somone in their teens at 18, and so on.
Aw man, you got my brain buzzin now.
You want guerilla warriors from the music scene? Look no further than Zack DeLa Rocha, frontman of now-defunct band Rage Against The Machine!
RATM supported just about every casue to be had in their day, from Native Americans to a long-standing comment on the South Amercian Zapatistas, a guerilla group.
The rest of the band has gone on to form Audioslave with ex-Soundgarden frontman Chris Cornell, but who knows where the mighty Zack has vanished to…
Is there a new star in the Invisible Clergy’s sky? Or has some long-dead singer of protest songs come screaming back from the Statosphere?
And what the HELL is Bob Dylan gonna think about this?
“Is there another Clergy member working against him, trying to crush the spirit of freedom that (should) be at the heart of his music?”
Of course there is. Consider the backlash against Elvis when he first appeared, which continues today against other wusicians and such. The people who argued in favor of Elvis forty years ago are the ones opposed to Marilyn Manson today.
There’s got to be an archetype of The Censor or something, that tries to eliminate freedom in art (on the good side, to ‘protect the children’, on the bad side to eliminate original thought). Perhaps this is just one manifestation of some larger authoritarian archetype, though.
But it’d be cool to have a couple of Censor avatars working together to stop art before it happens, by interrupting artists at work, and calling themselves the “men from Porlock”.
Even sneakier, have them be those guys at the major record company that pony up the cash for the latest boy band to release yet another album of commitee-penned clap-trap, but tie them up in legalistic knots when the band members decide they want to try and be ‘creative’.
Robbie Williams is one of the few to escape this process, I don’t want to know what the hell he was conjuring up to free himself in the years between Take That collapsing and his first solo album…..
I think the current “Minstrel” in the IC must be a classical music composer. The fall of classical music in the public eye is constantly resisted by the already ascended musician, thus people who still claim that classical is the only “real” music. A jazz musician did not ascend because of racism (pushed by the agents of the ascended minstrel) and the complexity of the music compared to the rising rock n’ roll. Rock n’ Roll was easy for people to understand and accept, truly simple, like the folk music BEFORE the rise of classical music. It hit on something primal, that the earliest minstrel avatars had.
As for a censor archetype, that would be good, though I’m more inclined to think that these may be renounced ex Invisible Clergy members. For example an avatar of the free thinker or rebel who was booted out and now fights against free thought or rebeliousness.
De la Rocha MUST be channeling the demagogue….nothing can enrage me like his voice…seriously
27 is the number of the path between Hod and Netzach in the Cabala, so it’s the path between the Sphere of Splender and the Sphere of Victory.
In Eden’s WitchCraft game (completely different rpg, I know), Hod corresponds to the realm of dreams and Netzach corresponds to the realm of the Gods, so 27 could represent some form of apotheosis where a celebrity’s cult of personality reaches enough critical mass to challange the King.
Or it could just be 2+7, the duality of 2 plus the divine symbolism of 7, representing the the transformation of the human to the divine.
Just some thoughts.
Thom
An Elvis who follows the Quabbala would be a madly fascinating creature.
Rabbi Elvis…
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